{"id":12708,"date":"2022-12-04T02:18:39","date_gmt":"2022-12-04T09:18:39","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/windpilot.com\/blog\/en\/?page_id=12708"},"modified":"2022-12-04T02:18:39","modified_gmt":"2022-12-04T09:18:39","slug":"pacific-pacific-plus","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/windpilot.com\/blog\/en\/tec-news\/advice\/pacific-pacific-plus\/","title":{"rendered":"Pacific &#8211; Pacific Plus"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>DIE QUAL DER WAHL &#8211; ABOUT CHOICES<\/strong><br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/windpilot.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/aufdemkopf-low.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2440\" height=\"2182\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-28015\" \/><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Hi Peter, I am looking for a windvane\u00a0selfsteer for my Phantom 35 (tiller). Once had one, but sold it to a harbour neighbour &#8211; now cruiser who wanted to leave, still regret it.<\/p>\n<p>Now choosing between a used Aries, used windpilot pacific, used windpilot pacific plus or a new pacific, thinking it should be a new pacific.<br \/>\nWhat would be the total price for a new pacific for a phantom 35 with tiller? Are there any options to use the windpilot as an emergency rudder?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Quite a few questions compressed in a short mail. Here some answers to help you to get out of this labyrinth:<\/p>\n<p>ARIES no complaints but perhaps you should get some info to understand a bit about the differences between units of yesterday and today:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"3XoI5qdZ5t\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/windpilot.com\/blog\/en\/columns\/peter-the-market\/aries\/aries-to-windpilot\/\">Aries to Windpilot<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; clip: rect(1px, 1px, 1px, 1px);\" title=\"&#8220;Aries to Windpilot&#8221; &#8212; Windpilot Blog EN\" src=\"https:\/\/windpilot.com\/blog\/en\/columns\/peter-the-market\/aries\/aries-to-windpilot\/embed\/#?secret=heqh8B7sCY#?secret=3XoI5qdZ5t\" data-secret=\"3XoI5qdZ5t\" width=\"600\" height=\"338\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"1dt3ebhPRf\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/windpilot.com\/blog\/en\/columns\/peter-the-market\/aries\/peter-matthiesen-2019\/\">Peter Matthiesen 2019<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; clip: rect(1px, 1px, 1px, 1px);\" title=\"&#8220;Peter Matthiesen 2019&#8221; &#8212; Windpilot Blog EN\" src=\"https:\/\/windpilot.com\/blog\/en\/columns\/peter-the-market\/aries\/peter-matthiesen-2019\/embed\/#?secret=Smw8JxDMbh#?secret=1dt3ebhPRf\" data-secret=\"1dt3ebhPRf\" width=\"600\" height=\"338\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"aalv3UrCq7\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/windpilot.com\/blog\/en\/columns\/peter-the-market\/aries\/aries-the-bad-weather-problem-no-basis-in-fact\/\">Bad weather problem<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; clip: rect(1px, 1px, 1px, 1px);\" title=\"&#8220;Bad weather problem&#8221; &#8212; Windpilot Blog EN\" src=\"https:\/\/windpilot.com\/blog\/en\/columns\/peter-the-market\/aries\/aries-the-bad-weather-problem-no-basis-in-fact\/embed\/#?secret=CM5VdXbnmG#?secret=aalv3UrCq7\" data-secret=\"aalv3UrCq7\" width=\"600\" height=\"338\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>If you want to read about the experiences in the Golden Globe Race, here is the lesson:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"gMQBOdtuqP\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/windpilot.com\/blog\/en\/golden-globe-race\/windvane-report\/\">Windvane report<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; clip: rect(1px, 1px, 1px, 1px);\" title=\"&#8220;Windvane report&#8221; &#8212; Windpilot Blog EN\" src=\"https:\/\/windpilot.com\/blog\/en\/golden-globe-race\/windvane-report\/embed\/#?secret=fwYo3YdjOW#?secret=gMQBOdtuqP\" data-secret=\"gMQBOdtuqP\" width=\"600\" height=\"338\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><strong>PACIFIC or PACIFIC PLUS<\/strong><br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/windpilot.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/Randlos.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2410\" height=\"2142\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-28017\" \/>The PP unit would be perfect for my Windpilot balances \u2013 but might not be the perfect choice for you due to some serious considerations: <\/p>\n<p>&#8211; proxinity to the main rudder with interfering turbulent zone<br \/>\n&#8211; heavy weight 75 kg against 20 kg of the Pacific<br \/>\n&#8211; price<\/p>\n<p><strong>PRO-LOVED UNIT<\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"7buckaFbJz\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/windpilot.com\/blog\/en\/tec-news\/pre-loved\/\">Pre-loved<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; clip: rect(1px, 1px, 1px, 1px);\" title=\"&#8220;Pre-loved&#8221; &#8212; Windpilot Blog EN\" src=\"https:\/\/windpilot.com\/blog\/en\/tec-news\/pre-loved\/embed\/#?secret=tfpQf2oo2C#?secret=7buckaFbJz\" data-secret=\"7buckaFbJz\" width=\"600\" height=\"338\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><strong>EMERGENCY RUDDER<\/strong><br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/windpilot.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/Fuetterung.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2200\" height=\"1744\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-28019\" \/><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"RMDI9dgNWA\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/windpilot.com\/blog\/en\/tec-news\/sos-rudderless\/\">SOS &#8211; Rudderless<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; clip: rect(1px, 1px, 1px, 1px);\" title=\"&#8220;SOS &#8211; Rudderless&#8221; &#8212; Windpilot Blog EN\" src=\"https:\/\/windpilot.com\/blog\/en\/tec-news\/sos-rudderless\/embed\/#?secret=WiS9VZH0r4#?secret=RMDI9dgNWA\" data-secret=\"RMDI9dgNWA\" width=\"600\" height=\"338\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><strong>WORD OF MOUTH<\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"lI0XLZ3jfW\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/windpilot.com\/blog\/en\/tec-news\/word-of-mouth\/\">Word of Mouth<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; clip: rect(1px, 1px, 1px, 1px);\" title=\"&#8220;Word of Mouth&#8221; &#8212; Windpilot Blog EN\" src=\"https:\/\/windpilot.com\/blog\/en\/tec-news\/word-of-mouth\/embed\/#?secret=xO0qqd06vd#?secret=lI0XLZ3jfW\" data-secret=\"lI0XLZ3jfW\" width=\"600\" height=\"338\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>To be straight: your PHANTOM 35 is extremely strongly built as the GENZEL BOATYARD did not even had a slight idea about how thin one could built a yacht in the earlier times &#8211; and glassfibre has been cheap at that times.<\/p>\n<p>Several Phantom 35 have gone around the playball.<\/p>\n<p>Most importantly: Your boat has a strong skeg hunged main rudder with 3 bearings = even after grounding the part above the skeg might last for further steering.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ORCAS<\/strong>  will damage \/ eat  \/ or playing punching ball with an auxiliary rudder unit <strong>FIRST<\/strong>, before they will discover: hej, there is another rudder to eat just in front.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"TbCW59UVn6\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/windpilot.com\/blog\/en\/news\/the-riddle-of-the-orcas\/\">The riddle of the Orcas<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; clip: rect(1px, 1px, 1px, 1px);\" title=\"&#8220;The riddle of the Orcas&#8221; &#8212; Windpilot Blog EN\" src=\"https:\/\/windpilot.com\/blog\/en\/news\/the-riddle-of-the-orcas\/embed\/#?secret=vePfNgjwFf#?secret=TbCW59UVn6\" data-secret=\"TbCW59UVn6\" width=\"600\" height=\"338\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Sailing will be balance of risks and compromises &#8230; its the skipper who will have to take decisions.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"BVb4HoLEas\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/windpilot.com\/blog\/en\/tec-news\/production-2\/factory-insight\/\">Factory insight<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; clip: rect(1px, 1px, 1px, 1px);\" title=\"&#8220;Factory insight&#8221; &#8212; Windpilot Blog EN\" src=\"https:\/\/windpilot.com\/blog\/en\/tec-news\/production-2\/factory-insight\/embed\/#?secret=dLn4wnhYM7#?secret=BVb4HoLEas\" data-secret=\"BVb4HoLEas\" width=\"600\" height=\"338\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>For further queries you will realize that I am almost always just a mouseclick away from you<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/windpilot.com\/books\/\">WINDPILOT BOOKS<\/a><\/p>\n<p>best from Hamburg<br \/>\nPeter Foerthmann<br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/windpilot.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/Peter-Lions--150x150.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" class=\"alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-28023\" \/><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>DIE QUAL DER WAHL &#8211; ABOUT CHOICES Hi Peter, I am looking for a windvane\u00a0selfsteer for my Phantom 35 (tiller). Once had one, but sold it to a harbour neighbour &#8211; now cruiser who wanted to leave, still regret it. &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/windpilot.com\/blog\/en\/tec-news\/advice\/pacific-pacific-plus\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"parent":12071,"menu_order":-4,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"footnotes":""},"class_list":["post-12708","page","type-page","status-publish","hentry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/windpilot.com\/blog\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/12708","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/windpilot.com\/blog\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/windpilot.com\/blog\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/page"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/windpilot.com\/blog\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/windpilot.com\/blog\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=12708"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/windpilot.com\/blog\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/12708\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":12709,"href":"https:\/\/windpilot.com\/blog\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/12708\/revisions\/12709"}],"up":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/windpilot.com\/blog\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/12071"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/windpilot.com\/blog\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=12708"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}